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Naomi Ragen is an American-born novelist and playwright who has lived in Jerusalem since 1971. She has published seven internationally best-selling novels, and is the author of a hit play.


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PostThu Dec 15, 2005 9:51 am        


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Amos 5:26-27 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.


This is not an exact translation of the Hebrew
How many times must I make this comment
A knowledge of Hebrew syntax/grammar is essential

It reads
And you will carry your anointed idols, and the deity [made] in your image;the star [ this can mean your 'main' 'principal' ]
of your gods ( NOTICE plural) which ye made for yourselves.

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Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.


There is no word here in Hebrew for 'therefore'; just--I shall exile you ..etc

Cochav here does not refer to a planet [ tho it can elsewhere] and certainly has no reference whatso ever to a hexagram
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david barrett wrote:
and certainly has no reference whatso ever to a hexagram
Wishful thinking


Hmmm...OK.

There is just as much a question about the American symbol of a star within a circle which some claim to be associated to the sign of a
"Pentagram." LOL

Basically, Symbols, Graphics. Visual IDs, etc., really only serve to instill patriotism toward an organization and/or ideology. Whether right or wrong they serve a specific purpose for man and unfortunately in many cases create troublesome divisions. The question is: What would Yahweh think and does the symbol serve Him or man?

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There is just as much a question about the American symbol of a star within a circle which some claim to be associated to the sign of a
"Pentagram." LOL


Clarify please .Where?


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There is just as much a question about the American symbol of a star within a circle which some claim to be associated to the sign of a
"Pentagram." LOL


Clarify please .Where?


Visual info and descriptions:

http://www.symbols.com/encyclopedia/29/2914.html

Also the following:

“For Wiccans the pentagram represents the human being — head at uppermost point, and with arms spread and feet apart — embracing the universe. The points also correspond with the five “elements” we think of as composing all living things, namely, air, fire, water, earth and spirit. In ritual, after the circle is cast (to make our temporary temple), Wiccans often draw a pentagram in the air at each of the four directions, which are associated with the first four elements. (Spirit is thought of in the centre of the circle, but a pentagram is seldom done there.) These directions and elements are also associated with human aspects…”

“Wiccans usually use the upright pentagram, though occasionally they turn it upside-down for various purposes, for instance as a symbol of protection. Some traditional Wiccans use it as the sign of their second degree:- “The. . .symbolism is that although the four elements of Earth, Air, Fire and Water are now in balance, they still dominate the fifth, Spirit. The crowned upright pentagram of the Third Degree symbolizes that Spirit now rules the others.” (Janet and Stewart Farrar,The Witches’ Way. London: Robert Hale, 1985.) ”

Source: http://www.pfpc.ca/en/paganism.....agram.html


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Thanx. Had forgotten about the US military markings
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PostSat Jul 15, 2006 12:00 pm     Jewish Star    


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I found the following article, and thinking it pertinent to your post of 12/10/05, I send it along for your perusal.

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Star of David OR Star of Lucifer?
By Jim Searcy

Acts 7:42-43: Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon.

Amos 5:26-27 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the LORD, whose name is The God of hosts.


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Moloch, Chiun and Remphan are all names for the star god, Saturn, whose symbol is a six pointed star formed by two triangles. Saturn was the supreme god of the Chaldeans.

The hexagram was brought to the Jewish people by Solomon when he turned to witchcraft and idolatry after his marriage to Pharaoh's daughter in 922B.C. It became known as the Seal of Solomon in Egyptian magic and witchcraft. David had absolutely nothing to do with the hexagram and that star most certainly did not, in any way, represent God's people. Solomon gave himself up to satanic worship and built altars to Aashtroeth and Moloch (Saturn).

The hexagram faded from Jewish usage for 2,600 years. Then in the 1800’s, in Germany, it was adopted by Mayer Rothchild to mark his house. The six pointed star was used as the Rothchild coat of arms. It is difficult to pin down the date at which the six pointed hexagram star became known as the so-called Star of David. In fact the earliest Jewish application of the symbol outside the Rothchild banking and financial empire is 1873. That was the year that the Magen David was adopted as a Jewish device by the American Jewish Publication Society. It is not even mentioned in the rabbinic literature searches. Other than that fact, no one seems to know when or how the Occult or Satanic star, became the Star of David. What should a Christian or observant Jew have to do with this symbol, NOTHING, absolutely NOTHING. Keep the symbol out of your house. The evidence is overwhelming that it is a cursed symbol which may give demonic ground or license.

The hexagram has remained in use within the occult and is prominent in the rituals and worship of Druids, Freemasons, Astrology, New Age, and Wicca. Witches often have this hexagram symbol, of the so-called Star of David, tattooed on the abdomens or palms of witchcraft initiates.

The so-called Star of David is essentially a hexagram, nothing more, nothing less. There is no Biblical or Jewish evidence that traces this ancient occult symbol with King David of Israel. However, there is evidence that it was used by King Solomon, after he turned to pagan gods and the occult, late in his life. It is a very sobering thought and strong case against OSAS that Solomon’s soul would end up in hell. Here is a man to whom God appeared twice, whose father was King David, who was used by God to write so much scripture, Proverbs, Song of Solomon, and Ecclesiastes.

I Kings 11:4-9 For it came to pass, when Solomon was old, [that] his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as [was] the heart of David his father. For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. And Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and went not fully after the LORD, as [did] David his father. Then did Solomon build an high place for Chemosh, the abomination of Moab, in the hill that [is] before Jerusalem, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon. And the LORD was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the LORD God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice,


The great goal of freemasonry is to rebuild Solomon’s temple – The OCCULT ONE and NOT THE HOLY ONE.

A Masonic book called The Second Mile, an Eastern Star book, reveals that the "six pointed star is a very ancient symbol, and one of the most powerful." The hexagram is used in magic, witchcraft, sorcery and occultism and the casting of zodiacal horoscopes by astrologers. "It was considered to posses mysterious powers."

The six pointed star is used by magicians and alchemists. The sorcerers believed it represented the footprints of a special kind of DEMON called a trud and used it in ceremonies both to call up demons and to keep them away (O. J. Graham, The Six Pointed Star, New Puritan Library, 1988, p.35).

Bill Schnoebelen, a former Satanist, says, "To the sorcerer, the hexagram is a powerful tool to invoke Satan." In fact, the word "hex" -- as to put a "hex" or "curse" on people -- comes from this word.

If you examine the so-called "Star of David," or hexagram, closely, you will discover something astonishing. It has six points, forms six equilateral triangles, and in its interior forms a six sided hexagon -- thus it reveals the number of Satan’ antichrist beast, -- 6 points, 6 triangles, and the 6 sides of the hexagram -- 666 !!!

This ancient occultic figure is also a pagan symbol of sexual union and reproduction. The triangle pointing downward represents the female sexual organ, and the upward pointing triangle represents the male phallus. Joined together in the hexagram, they represent sexual union, to paganism and the occult, the union of the active and passive forces in nature. Thus the hexagram was a part of Satan's original "sex worship" rites and symbols of the sexually oriented rites and ceremonies of BAALISM -- Nimrod and Semiramis -- Easter (Astarte) and Baal -- Venus (Aphrodite) and Bacchus.

David J. Meyer, a former witch and occult practitioner, now editor of The Last Trumpet newsletter and a Christian, declares, "When the male triangle penetrates the female triangle it produces the six-pointed crest of Solomon or hexagram, the most wicked symbol in witchcraft."

The hexagram was used in ancient pagan Egypt as a tool to communicate with the dead. Of course we know they were actually demons, conjured up, posing as the dead. The dead are not able to communicate with the living. Some of the verses of Ecclesiastes are strong on this point such as 3:19-20 and 9:10.

How did this ancient symbol of the occult, and Lucifer, Satan, the devil, find its way to be a symbol of the Jewish people, and become the major symbol today of the Jewish people, even being on the Israeli flag?

The first martyr of the Christian church, Stephen, in his defense before the Sanhedrin, warned the Jewish nation, as he reviewed the history of Israel. (Acts 7:42-43). God's Word warns us, in the prophecy of Amos. (Amos 5:26). This star was undoubtedly the SIX-POINTED STAR -- the star associated with sexual depravity, and whoring after false gods. It is the Hexagram from occult, magic, and neocromancy of Egypt! But, how did this figure become popular in Israel?

In one word, the answer is Solomon. Solomon, after he became king of Israel, violated all the specific commands of God to kings, on an unprecedented scale. Those special commandments of God to the kings, which Solomon violated like no other, are found in Deut 17:15-19. There is NO Wonder that the goal of freemasonry is to rebuild Solomon’s temple. 1 Ki 3:1 And Solomon made affinity with Pharaoh king of Egypt, and took Pharaoh's daughter, and brought her into the city of David, until he had made an end of building his own house, and the house of the LORD, and the wall of Jerusalem round about. The influence of the daughter of Pharaoh, king of Egypt, was no doubt considerable, as she was pre-eminent and most exalted among all of all his wives.

Solomon who loved the Lord in the beginning of his reign, turned away from the true path of worship as he grew older. 1 Ki 11:1-2 But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites; Of the nations concerning which the LORD said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love.

1 Ki 11:9 And the LORD was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the LORD God of Israel, which had appeared unto him twice,


Solomon worshipped, among other gods, Ashtoreth (Eastarte, Isis, Venus, Aprhodite), Milcom or Molech, and Chemosh. These satanic rituals included human sacrifice, witchcraft, and sexual orgies. Solomon built high places, temples, and altars, for these pagan abominations, for all his foreign wives, and joined them to burn incense and do sacrifice to their gods. It was, without any doubt, Solomon, and NOT David, who adopted the Hexagram, which became known as Solomon's Seal, or Solomon’s Shield. He became a wizard, or consulter of demons, and the walked in forbidden occult powers of darkness, of Lucifer, Satan, the devil. Thus the hexagram became a prominent symbol in ancient Israel which can be traced no farther back than Solomon. He adopted it from the pagan nations around him.

There is no evidence to connect the hexagram with David, his father. There is no reason to believe that David, a man after God's own heart, would ever adopt a Satanic, occult, or pagan symbol for his "shield." But Satan the devil, the chief of liars and deceivers, would certainly love to have you think so! (Rev.12:9; John 8:44).

Why and how did the six-pointed star -- the pagan occult symbol -- become connected with the MODERN state of Israel? It was adopted as the family crest or shield by the Rothschild family during the 19th century. The Rothschilds bought a great deal of property in "Israel," from the Turks and Arabs, and were largest financial supporters of the Zionist movement in the early decades. The influence of the Rothschilds and their heavy financial support of Israel, led the Jewish nation to adopt the so-called "Star of David" as their own symbol as a nation.

As God's people, we should have NO PART in the use of these perverted, corrupt, occult, Luciferian symbols, and everything they represent! They are an abomination in the eyes of our Holy, Almighty God!

This popular Jewish symbol, is not as Jewish as people are led to believe. It is very popular. It appears on many synagogues and as well as on THE NATIONAL FLAG OF ISRAEL. The star symbol IS VERY OLD and was used as a decoration by MANY ANCIENT CULTURES. The oldest known example dates back to the time of Noah, almost 4,400 years ago. However, by NO MEANS is this star the oldest Jewish symbol, any more than it should be considered Jewish at all. The oldest known symbol of Israel, is NOT the falsely so-called Star of David; but, THE BURNING BUSH as mentioned in Exodus. Exo 3:2 And the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed.

Though not the oldest of the symbols of Israel, the NEW, soon to be, flag of the Nation of Judah, which will emerge when Jewish people look upon Him whom we have ALL pierced. The NEW FLAG will be the 7 branched candle stand, the gold Menorah on a sky blue background. Some say the burning bush symbolized Israel, A NATION NOT CONSUMED. In spite of many nations trying to annihilate the Jews, God has promised to preserve them and this has proven true in history.

The star of Solomon, or Luciferian star, dates back over 4000 years, and was in many ancient cultures. This is very important because THIS STAR HAS BEEN CONNECTED TO FALSE PAGAN WORSHIP and Moses had a very difficult time getting the people of Israel to forsake this false religion. During the Middle Ages the symbol became connected with MAGIC and protection, along with the pentagram or five-pointed star. The connection with magic DATES MUCH EARLIER THAN THE MIDDLE AGES for both stars. This can easily be proven by a quick study on magic and witchcraft.

The so-called Star of David also called the Shield of David, or Mogen David, in reality,k is the Seal of Solomon, when he turned reprobate, Luciferian, and was fully given over to the occult. The STAR OF DAVID IS NOT MENTIONED IN SCRIPTURE.

Though the phrase "Star of David" itself does not appear in the Bible, it is obvious that THERE IS A STAR MENTIONED. ALSO WE SHOULD TAKE SPECIAL NOTE OF TWO TABERNACLES MENTIONED IN SCRIPTURE

There always have been TRUE an FALSE tabernacles. There were TWO TABERNACLES in the wilderness. The true and the false. Notice how the Word of God clearly identifies these two tabernacles and places THE FALSE ONE WITH A STAR.

THE TRUE - Psa 78:59-60 When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel: So that he forsook the tabernacle of Shiloh, the tent which he placed among men;
THE FALSE - Amos 5:25-26 Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel? But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves. THE TABERNACLE OF YOUR MOLOCH AND CHIUN your images, the STAR OF YOUR GOD, WHICH YE MADE TO YOURSELVES.
STEPHEN MENTIONS THIS STAR IN ACTS 7

Acts 7:42-43 Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O ye house of Israel, have ye offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Yea, ye took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the star of your god Remphan, figures which ye made to worship them: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon. THE TABERNACLE OF MOLOCH, AND THE STAR OF YOUR GOD REMPHAN, figures which ye made to worship them..."
THE FALSE TABERNACLE AND THE TRUE TABERNACLE ARE ALSO MENTIONED IN HEBREWS

Heb 8:1-2 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
THE GREAT HIGH PRIEST, AFTER THE BETTER MELCHESEDEC ORDER, JESUS CHRIST, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens; A minister of the sanctuary, and of THE TRUE TABERNACLE, WHICH THE LORD PITCHED, AND NOT MAN.

During the LAST TWO CENTURIES the six-pointed star has become a distinct Jewish symbol. One motive was the desire to have a common Jewish identification similar to the Christian cross and Islamic moon god crescent. It is important that we know that it has ONLY BEEN THE PAST TWO CENTURIES that the star has become a distinct Jewish symbol.

Though the Nazis used the star as A BADGE OF SHAME during World War II, it is said the symbol came to represent unity and hope. The reality is that the he Jewish people in Hitler's time were not thinking of unity and hope. They were thinking of SURVIVAL.

It really is sad that a symbol of Satan, witchcraft, magic, and the occult, now days represents the Jewish nation. Today, the falsely so-called Star of David almost has pre-eminence over the God ordained and much older MENORAH, or seven branched candelabrum, as a symbol of Jewish tradition. THE BURNING BUSH is slightly older, by a matter of months, than the Menorah, and BOTH have a TRUE and direct connection to the Jewish nation. The Star of Solomon, falsely called the Star of David – DOES NOT. We will soon see God remove the veil. Then we will see this falsely so-called Star of David removed from any association with the people and land of Israel. The nation of Israel will soon become the nation of Judah. We will KNOW when God removes the veil and saves the whole nation in one day. We should KNOW how we will know.

Zec 12:9-11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy ALL the nations that come against Jerusalem. And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

2 Cor 3:14-16 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which veil is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart. Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away.

We will KNOW because we will see the dark symbol of Satan and the occult, replaced on their National flag, with LIGHT from either the Burning Bush and/or the Menorah. Maranatha. Alleluia Yeshua. Bruning Bush, or Menorah, or Both, let the symbol of the God who is Light, the God of Israel, be the symbol of Light, rather than darkness.


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While ye have light, believe in the light, that ye may be the children of light. For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

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PostSun Jul 16, 2006 1:26 am        


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Excellent and revealing info with insight directly from the Word of God.

There is one other note that came to mind when I read the following:

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In one word, the answer is Solomon. Solomon, after he became king of Israel, violated all the specific commands of God to kings, on an unprecedented scale. Those special commandments of God to the kings, which Solomon violated like no other, are found in Deut 17:15-19.


This is quite a strong indictment against Solomon in itself but there is one certain verse that reveals an interesting point as mentioned in the following:

Now the weight of gold that came to Solomon in one year was six hundred threescore and six talents of gold. (1 Kings 10:14)

Translated numerically = 666

Hmmmm....

Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. (Revelation 13:1Cool

Coincidence????


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